19:05:52 From Shane Atkinson to Everyone: Do you think this can be done June 25-10 July Timeframe 19:06:12 From Rebecca Rodriguez to Everyone: Will the slideshow be available to us? 19:06:40 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: Even late June would have high water and quite a bit of snow in the passes. 19:06:59 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: A recording of the presentation will be sent to everyone who has a ticket, probably tomorrow! 19:09:11 From bernadettelamarca to Everyone: Wonderland piñata. (What we called the poles.) 19:10:00 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: LOL! 19:11:39 From bernadettelamarca to Everyone: Yes, very steep at Ipsut Pass. We did clockwise. 19:11:50 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: I did clockwise also 19:12:25 From bernadettelamarca to Everyone: Indian Bar, the Wonderland Hilton. We camped there but outside of the shelter because the shelter was infested with rats! 19:12:54 From Marteena (she / her) to Everyone: So, you don't need an itinerary ready to enter the lottery? 19:13:37 From Sheila R & Andy Z to Everyone: Not anymore Marteena — they changed the system last year 19:13:45 From Jodie to Everyone: the fee went up 19:13:54 From Sheila R & Andy Z to Everyone: I think the new system is really the best type of approach 19:14:00 From Selena to Everyone: I got the afternoon of the first day for my permit itinerary in 2021. Woo hoo! 19:14:41 From Cheryl Conklin to Everyone: I managed to get a walk up permit last year…in September 19:15:24 From bernadettelamarca to Everyone: In 2010, they save 30% of the campsites for walk-ins, which is how we got our permit. 19:16:05 From Jen to Everyone: Can you set an alternate trip leader in case something happens and the trip leader can't make it? 19:16:32 From Kendra Bradford to Everyone: yes, you can have one alt 19:16:09 From Sylvia Dingwall to Everyone: Kathleen - how many people/tents in your reservation? KATHLEEN: 4 people, 4 tents 19:16:39 From bernadettelamarca to Everyone: And the permit was FREE! 19:16:54 From bernadettelamarca to Everyone: Looks like things have changed. 19:17:28 From Michael Scuderi to Everyone: Is the Carbon River Ranger station still accessible? 19:17:45 From Sheila R & Andy Z to Everyone: Yes the carbon river ranger station is west of the washout 19:17:42 From Patrice McDermott to Everyone: Can you take day trips and hike only sections of the wonderland. Do you know where the access points are? 19:18:06 From bernadettelamarca to Everyone: We were at the Longmire WIC at 7am. We were the first there. 19:18:50 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: Yes you can take day trips without an advance permit or reserve segments vs. the whole Wonderland when you make your reservation. Many access points. Go to the MRNP website and pull up the backcountry map, or get the Tami Asars book which also discusses access points. 19:19:47 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: LOVE my InReach Mini! Won't go out in the backcountry without it! 19:20:24 From Shane Atkinson to Everyone: What base weight is “ultralight” my stuff weighs much more than 22# CHERYL: Usually 'ultralight' is 10-12 pounds base weight, i.e. weight with everything except consumables (food, water, fuel) and what you are wearing. 19:20:38 From Ana Garcia to Everyone: How do the walk up permits affect your itinerary? 19:21:13 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: When you walk up, you get the camps that are available which may not be the ones you want. 19:20:42 From Joseph Rodriguez to Everyone: How crowded were the tent sites with 4 tents? KATHLEEN: The tent sites at some locations are small pads. You could see the 4 tents crammed onto the single pad at Mowich when we had to share with everyone there for a trail run. Some are less constrained. 19:20:54 From Bekah Schuring to Everyone: What did you do to keep you phone charged for 10 days? KATHLEEN: Kept phone on airplane mode; used power blocks. 19:21:24 From Nancy to Everyone: I believe "ultralight", technically is 10 lbs. 19:21:26 From Lisa to Everyone: how much more weight do the comsumables add on? 19:23:09 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: Weight of consumables will depend on how many days of food you need, what food you choose to bring, and, how much fuel you use (cold meals vs. lots of hot water). 19:21:30 From mike to Everyone: 4 tents - were you at group sites, or regular sites? Do you attach permits to the secondary tents, or just yours? 19:22:10 From Sheila R & Andy Z to Everyone: Group sites are for 6+ people 19:21:37 From Denise Healy to Everyone: can you give a link to your utube on gear? CHERYL: 2021 Wonderland Backpacking Gear List: https://lighterpack.com/r/icg68o. This link will have ALL of the specific gear listed that Kathleen brought with her for this trip, including gear weight and total base weight, organized by system. Her gear video for this trip: https://youtu.be/TWWPVDFUZ4M 19:21:57 From Ellen Govan to Everyone: didn't you share some of those base weight items? IE stove, filtration, 19:22:06 From Ellen Govan to Everyone: and Garmin. 19:23:26 From Darcy Webb to Everyone: Are micro spike ever a necessity? 19:24:10 From Sheila R & Andy Z to Everyone: Not last August 19:24:12 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: Early season when there is snow on some of the high sections you might appreciate having spikes but during main season July-Sept you won't need them. 19:25:16 From Michael Scuderi to Everyone: What was the total weight of your backpack when you first started? CHERYL: See Kathleen's gear list on lighterpack.com, above 19:27:10 From Joseph Rodriguez to Everyone: What time did you typically break camp? CHERYL: Usually got up around 6:30 and were on the trail by 730 or 8 except for a day when they started a little later. 19:27:28 From Stephanie Modjeski (She/Her) to Everyone: Are the food caches labeled or locked? 19:27:56 From Sheila R & Andy Z to Everyone: I have heard stories, unfortunately, about food caches being broken into 🙁 CHERYL: Kathleen put their food caches into a big white paint bucket (this is the common mode) and labeled it with their name and planned pickup date. At Mowich these were stored outside the ranger cabin; at Longmire they stored them inside. 19:29:04 From bernadettelamarca to Everyone: You also put the date you plan to pick up your food cache. 19:30:07 From Bekah Schuring to Everyone: Were bugs bad? CHERYL: Kathleen mentioned the section going up from White River to sunrise where flies were bothersome; otherwise not bad. 19:30:34 From Sara Carroll to Everyone: what if the bridge is washed out? 19:31:14 From Jodie to Everyone: you would ford the river 19:31:15 From Sheila R & Andy Z to Everyone: There’s a webpage that you can watch to see what the status is regarding bridges on all major water crossings. Usually they get put in each spring. 19:32:58 From Elkayam, Gideon to Everyone: bugs are all about timing 19:33:08 From Sheila R & Andy Z to Everyone: … and location ;-) 19:33:21 From Elkayam, Gideon to Everyone: anyone else who was in the enchantments early july, i'm glad you survived too 19:33:35 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: Earlier in the season (July to early August) you will want a bug net and repellent. 19:33:57 From Bekah Schuring to Everyone: thank you 19:35:37 From Shane Atkinson to Everyone: Do the lotteries for this work like hunting lotteries? Example; are points given for each years entry or is it simply luck of the draw? 19:35:48 From Sheila R & Andy Z to Everyone: Luck of the draw 19:35:47 From SteveL to Everyone: what were you planning if one or more of the hazardous water crossings weren't in yet? KATHLEEN: You could try crossing early in the morning but if dangerous and no bridge, look upstream for a safer spot or turn around. These fast moving rivers are not to be trifled with! 19:36:17 From Shane Atkinson to Everyone: Is that the same for enchantments as well. I am on limited time so trying to maximize my PNW hiking CHERYL: The enchantments permit lottery is run somewhat differently - go to https://www.recreation.gov/permits/233273 to read about it 19:36:32 From Selena to Everyone: The bridges went out a lot in summer of 2021 due to the hot weather, high glacier melt. 19:37:04 From Sheila R & Andy Z to Everyone: For the Enchantments your lottery entry includes the specific day you want to enter. For the MRNP lottery, you just get to choose from everything that is still available anytime that works for you. 19:37:21 From Shane Atkinson to Everyone: Thank you SR 19:37:34 From Elaine Juzwick to Everyone: Thanks so much for this, super amazing trip and wonderful information! I need to go now, but just wanted to say thank you for hosting this. 19:38:00 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: Elaine, we'll send the full recording out tomorrow! 19:38:54 From Nancy to Everyone: Nothin to see there! WOW!!! 19:38:56 From Danielle Graham to Everyone: Oooooooh, wow! 19:39:03 From Jodie to Everyone: beautiful 19:39:11 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: My fave camp on the Wonderland for sure! 19:39:18 From Nancy to Everyone: And this is why we backpack or hike! 19:39:21 From Lara Linde to Everyone: Klapatche Park is amazing! I love it there! I did Aurora peak in 2019. Amanzing view! 19:39:21 From bernadettelamarca to Everyone: Wasn’t that St. Edwards Lake? 19:39:26 From Faith S. to Everyone: Unreal - amazing views <3 19:39:42 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: No, St Andrews lake is in this photo but different from the one next to Klapache camp. 19:40:10 From bernadettelamarca to Everyone: We camped at Klapatche Park as well. 19:40:14 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: Tokaloo Spire (upper left) is a fun side hike and climb if you're a rock climber 19:40:37 From Lara Linde to Everyone: Yes Cheryl! Part of party went to Tokaloo. 19:41:16 From bernadettelamarca to Everyone: Lots of bugs at Devil’s Dream during our backpacking trip. 19:41:58 From bernadettelamarca to Everyone: The Devil’s Pipe organ is beautiful andesite rock formation. 19:42:27 From bernadettelamarca to Everyone: Emerald Ridge , YES! 19:42:49 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: The fragrance of lupine.... 19:47:19 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: YUM! 19:47:20 From J Quora to Everyone: You all look so happy! (how can that be?!?) 🙂 19:47:53 From Sheila R & Andy Z to Everyone: You can also splurge on a *bed* (and a full night) at Longmire in the midst of your trek if you feel like it :-) 19:48:54 From Elkayam, Gideon to Everyone: sorry if this has already been said - how will we access the recording of this event? 19:49:11 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: I will email the recording to everyone who has a ticket, probably tomorrow! 19:49:18 From MerrillLynchiPad to Everyone: how do you like the Ursack vs traditional black hard shell bear can? 19:50:03 From Sheila R & Andy Z to Everyone: Day 7 would have been a Sunday too — lots of people in the park! 19:50:21 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: The UrSack weighs 7 oz where a bear can weighs 2 lbs. It's FANTASTIC!! 19:50:50 From thomasmacinnes to Everyone: Do you have to hang your food bags on a pole like that at every camp? Are the poles provided? 19:50:54 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: This is notoriously people's least favorite section being within view of the road most of the time. 19:51:16 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: Yes, there are poles at every camp and you must hang your food. 19:51:17 From Cathie from Comox BC to Everyone: How many hours do you typically hike per day on trail? Is a 10 day itinerary typical, or is this shorter/longer than average? 19:51:31 From Sheila R & Andy Z to Everyone: When you pick up your permit, you get a lecture from the ranger on all the things you should and should not do on the trail. Hanging your food is definitely one of the things you should do. 19:52:01 From thomasmacinnes to Everyone: Can it just be any stash bag or does it have to be a bear proof bag like the ursack 19:52:21 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: You'll find people doing the Wonderland in 3 days and some who take 12 days. 8-10 days is pretty common. 19:52:59 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: Doesn't have to be an ursack on the bear pole but the ursack also protects against rodents so worth having even without bears! 19:53:32 From Elkayam, Gideon to Everyone: ursack's are allowed (per rangers) in MRNP? 19:53:55 From Larry PDX to Everyone: Ransack + drybag 19:53:56 From Sheila R & Andy Z to Everyone: Yes, definitely Ursacks are allowed — I was trying to google whether they are required or not. 19:53:57 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: Yes 19:54:33 From Cathie from Comox BC to Everyone: Is there much navigation required on the trail or is it all boot packed and easy to follow? KATHLEEN: Trail is well defined and easy to follow. 19:54:36 From bernadettelamarca to Everyone: Most beautiful section of the WT. I love the Ohanapecosh Glacier. 19:55:10 From Olivia to Everyone: How do you keep your phone charged for 10 days? 19:55:20 From Sheila R & Andy Z to Everyone: She probably had a battery pack to recharge 19:55:22 From Ellen Govan to Everyone: We used the Ursack bag in 2019 on our circuit due to high incidence of 'mini bear's (mice) getting into food bags while on the pole. Worked great. 19:55:22 From Smriti Chandrashekar to Everyone: What's the name of the app again? 19:55:22 From Greg Warnick to Everyone: Thank you so much for this terrific presentation. I have to sign off but appreciate your sharing and hope to see you on the trail! 19:55:37 From Cathie from Comox BC to Everyone: What was the name of that app? 19:55:39 From Sarah C (she/her) to Everyone: Guthook 19:55:56 From Sheila R & Andy Z to Everyone: https://faroutguides.com/guthook-goes-farout/ 19:56:11 From Kendra Bradford to Everyone: Guthook now called FarOut 19:57:30 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: The Indian Bar shelter is notorious for rats! 19:57:52 From Shane Atkinson to Everyone: Anker power banks on Amazon are a great choice. I used Anker for an extended military training exercise of 30 days and was able to charge my phone the entire time. Lightest for the price that Ive food today 19:57:57 From bernadettelamarca to Everyone: Ohanapecosh Glacier is the view. Very beautiful. 19:58:06 From Jodie to Everyone: Indian Bar is my favorite place in the park 19:58:44 From bernadettelamarca to Everyone: One of the most beautiful waterfall. Hard to spell waterfall name. 19:59:30 From bernadettelamarca to Everyone: The best section of the WT. Panhandle Gap is the highest point on the WT. 19:59:54 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: And Panhandle Gap will hold snow later than most places on the Wonderland. 20:00:01 From Larry PDX to Everyone: Lucky to get both those camps 20:00:24 From bernadettelamarca to Everyone: Up, up, up from Indian Bar. 20:02:22 From Sheila R & Andy Z to Everyone: Larry, yes, those two campsites are nearly impossible to get! 20:02:22 From Amae Kurre to Everyone: Is there snow year round at panhandle? 20:02:25 From George to Everyone: Did rangers ever check your permit. 20:02:36 From maxalton1@gmail.com to Everyone: so beautiful 20:02:51 From bernadettelamarca to Everyone: Yes, hang your pemit 20:02:59 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: I think it depends on the year but I've seen snow on Panhandle even inlate August. 20:02:59 From bernadettelamarca to Everyone: Outside your tent. 20:03:52 From Smriti Chandrashekar to Everyone: Any physical training tips for those planning to do this for the first time? 20:04:44 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: Build up gradually to the point where you can do 8-10 miles and 3000' of gain in a day fairly comfortably. Best way to get in shape for hiking is to hike, with weight on your back. 20:04:56 From maxalton1@gmail.com to Everyone: I remember feeling pretty emotional finishing up the Northern Loop last year. I did not want it to end. 20:05:31 From Cathie from Comox BC to Everyone: Are bear/cougar sightings common on the WT? 20:05:35 From Jodie to Everyone: I felt that way about the northern loop also 20:05:58 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: YOu can see bears at certain times of year, and goats. Unlikely to see a cougar (though they may see you). 20:06:13 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: This is not one of the trails where you need bear spray. 20:07:14 From Larry PDX to Everyone: If you see a black bear it is probably running away from you CHERYL: Yes, as long as you keep a clean camp and store your food so that they can't get to it! 20:07:18 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: The Wonderland is a luxurious trail because you can resupply every 3 days or so 20:07:19 From Shane Atkinson to Everyone: 10 days away from people and masks is what most of us need 20:08:32 From Shane Atkinson to Everyone: Sounds like we can use a pajama logistics planning party in the future 20:08:37 From Cheryl Conklin to Everyone: What were the tips that the Longmire rangers gave you re getting permits? 20:08:45 From Darcy Webb to Everyone: Is it possible to break the whole trail into thirds and do it 3 different weeks? Would you still need the permit? 20:08:59 From Sheila R & Andy Z to Everyone: You need a permit for any camping. 20:09:11 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: Yes,, you can break it up readily, but yes you always need a permit for backcountry camping in the park! 20:09:15 From Sara Carroll to Everyone: Is September just as busy as August? 20:09:17 From Shane Atkinson to Everyone: If we navigate snow is that snowshoes or basic crampons/microspikes 20:09:21 From Ellen Govan to Everyone: No permit needed for day hiking; just entry fee to the National Park. 20:09:22 From Larry PDX to Everyone: I saw a bear looking down on a spur trail of the Northern loop, it hid from a hiker on that trail, probably did that when I came up that trail 20:09:28 From Sara to Everyone: About how many PEOPLE did you run across? 20:09:29 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: Not as busy in September. 20:10:17 From Darcy Webb to Everyone: Which Green Trail map? 20:10:25 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: Generally the snow is soft enough to negotiate without spikes most of the year and you won't need snowshoes. 20:10:26 From Sheila R & Andy Z to Everyone: Green Trails 269SX 20:10:30 From Darcy Webb to Everyone: NVM - see it on the slide :) 20:10:47 From Sara Carroll to Everyone: which direction do most day hikers goe 20:11:02 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: Either direction is pretty common. 20:11:08 From Elizabeth Johnson to Everyone: What is the average number of people you saw each day? 20:11:25 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: But for day hiking the direction you want will depend on the section. 20:11:37 From Shelley Horn to Everyone: You showed the picture of the Mowich campground. How packed are the campgrounds in the more remote areas on the trail? 20:12:11 From Sheila R & Andy Z to Everyone: Most of the other campsites are not boxed in defined spaces like that. Mowich is really practically right at a parking lot. 20:12:15 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: During the main season the camps even in remote areas will be full but you won't see many people. 20:12:46 From Shani Frayo to Everyone: Many camps only have 1-3 sites 20:13:02 From Shane Atkinson to Everyone: IG follows coming 20:13:32 From Lara Linde to Everyone: Love your videos and IG! 20:13:37 From Audrey Levine to Everyone: Can you build into your itinerary spending a second night at 1 or 2 of the camps? 20:13:55 From Sheila R & Andy Z to Everyone: Yes, if the site is available, you can stay in the same place more than one night. 20:14:03 From Cheryl Talbert, Co-Chair Foothills Hiking-Backpacking to Everyone: Yes you can, if they are available! Some of the camps are very popular so will be hard to get. 20:14:14 From Sheila R & Andy Z to Everyone: When building your itinerary, the system will also not let you hike more than 17 miles from one camp to the next. 20:14:29 From Nancy to Everyone: The Northern Loop has been mentioned a couple of times by you and here on the chat, can you explain this route . . . maybe show it on your full Wonderland Trail map :-) 20:14:45 From Nancy to Everyone: Guess I need to attend the next PJ party! 20:14:45 From Sheila R & Andy Z to Everyone: Watch me in two weeks and I’ll tell you all about the Northern Loop :-) 20:15:07 From Olivia to Everyone: Thank you! Great presentation Token! 20:15:09 From Nancy to Everyone: Will do SR! 20:15:16 From Sheila R & Andy Z to Everyone: :-) 20:15:43 From Valerie Sasson to Everyone: Bears? 20:15:47 From Lisa to Everyone: Total wieght of pack w all food etc 20:15:52 From Audrey Levine to Everyone: Thanks so much, Kathleen! 20:15:56 From Larry PDX to Everyone: Thanks 20:16:05 From donna to Everyone: What were the tips regarding getting permits that the rangers shared with you? CHERYL: The same tips that Kathleen shared earlier - get onto the site right when the lottery opens; have not only your preferred itinerary but also backups in hand for each night 20:16:13 From Anne King to Everyone: Would you do this one solo? 20:16:19 From Diann Sheldon to Everyone: Thank you for a most excellent presentation! Your itinerary was certainly ideal!!! Happy trails 🙂 20:16:26 From hiker1949 to Everyone: thank you 20:16:34 From Raul&Jenelle to Everyone: How many hours a day on average did you hike? KATHLEEN: Were usually at camp by 2 or 3 in the afternoon. A few by 5PM. 20:16:39 From Joseph Rodriguez to Everyone: What would you suggest for people who get a late lottery choice and have to change their planned itinerary. KATHLEEN: Have backup camps planned out in case you don't get your preferred itinerary. 20:16:39 From SteveL to Everyone: Contingency plan for hazardous water crossings that might have lacked bridging KATHLEEN: Go up or downstream to find a safe spot or turn around. These rivers are no joke, especially earlier in the season. 20:16:58 From Nancy to Everyone: Can you talk just briefly a little bit more about getting permits via walk up. I've heard that if you are somewhat flexible, it's not too difficult to get one and that the Rangers are extremely helpful in trying to get you on trail. Does that sound about right? 20:17:04 From Shane Atkinson to Everyone: Since I might need to do this early do you think if I have to navigate snow is that snowshoes or basic crampons/microspikes CHERYL: If you are hiking the trail early season you will want to carry microspikes. May also be some navigation challenges so be prepared for that. 20:17:12 From Amae Kurre to Everyone: there was a very active bear at Mystic this past summer. Bad idea to eat a salmon packet there, oops 20:17:20 From Baker to Everyone: Awesome site to get you pack weight as mentioned: https://lighterpack.com/signin 20:17:41 From Amanda Petry to Everyone: What do you do to train for this type of trip? KATHLEEN: HIKE! Best way to train for a hike. 20:17:42 From Sara to Everyone: What's the option for tent vs Hammocks? is this definitely a tent trail? KATHLEEN: Not sure that all camps have trees suitable for tying a hammock where you're allowed to camp. The tent spots are designated and you need to stay there. Call the rangers to find out. 20:17:46 From MerrillLynchiPad to Everyone: are ursacks as good as bear cans? CHERYL: Ursacks have been tested and certified to be bear-safe. You have to tie them properly to keep small critters out. A bear could still crush the food inside. 20:18:37 From MerrillLynchiPad to Everyone: you mentioned the pct . how scary and how much exposure vs the wonderland trail? CHERYL: Not much exposure on the Wonderland; some places on the PCT with a bit of exposure but usually pretty modest and can be avoided. 20:19:03 From Baker to Everyone: Is there a good spot to start and do 1/2 of the trail? Would love to do 10 days, but work is always calling. :) KATHLEEN: West Side Road walk in over Emerald Ridge to Klapache; also Mowich to Klapache from the north. (Cheryl likes White River to Nickel Creek!) 20:19:13 From donna to Everyone: If the campsites are full, do you have the option to camp at a wilderness site? CHERYL: You have to stay at your designated site. 20:19:42 From Ana Garcia to Everyone: Following up on walk up permits...how does that work with caching food? CHERYL: Usually you won't cache your food until you're about ready to hit the trail, but if you walk in and your permit is for the same day or the next day you'll have to drive your food to the caching points before starting to walk. 20:19:59 From Anne King to Everyone: YESSSSSS, thank you!!! 20:20:14 From maxalton1@gmail.com to Everyone: It's great to hear that it's ok to do solo 20:20:17 From Randy Lee to Everyone: If you had known that some bridges would be out, what provisions would you make for those crossings, ie ropes that you would set up, other methods? KATHLEEN: Didn't carry a rope. Find a safer spot or time of day to cross or turn around. 20:21:06 From Shane Atkinson to Everyone: Snow keeps coming up: If we navigate snow is that snowshoes or basic crampons/microspikes CHERYL: Microspikes are helpful if early season. Later in the season there still may be a bit of snow but usually can be navigated without spikes. 20:21:15 From Jodie to Everyone: river shoes 20:21:56 From Nancy to Everyone: cross rivers as early in the day as possible 20:22:23 From Shane Atkinson to Everyone: Thank you so much 20:22:43 From lnewell to Everyone: put your phone in a ziplock bag for water crossings 20:22:55 From Shane Atkinson to Everyone: Ahhh the drop off thought is perfecrt 20:24:30 From Daniel Zilcsak to Everyone: Hammocks, yes! Our friend Nate hiked it in a hammock all the way. 20:25:48 From Celina Bednar to Everyone: if you have fear of heights recommended or not? 20:25:59 From Celina Bednar to Everyone: with drop offs 20:26:52 From Nancy to Everyone: If you win a lottery spot to get a permit, how many people can be on 1 permit? 20:26:54 From bernadettelamarca to Everyone: When we did the WT, we were assigned a particular site at each campsite. 20:27:26 From Sheila R & Andy Z to Everyone: That’s true only for the group site. 20:27:49 From SteveL to Everyone: Wilderness zones aren't available on itineraries 20:28:05 From Sheila R & Andy Z to Everyone: yes 20:28:07 From Nancy to Everyone: Thank you Token! 20:28:48 From MerrillLynchiPad to Everyone: are ursacks as good as bear cans? 20:29:13 From Lara Linde to Everyone: YEs! That was our route!! 20:29:35 From Nancy to Everyone: So, if you turn around, and are no longer following your itinerary - would this create a problem in regards to your itinerary, and with the rangers? 20:29:48 From Sheila R & Andy Z to Everyone: Yes, you have to stick to your itinerary 20:30:09 From Lara Linde to Everyone: Long bike ride but it was a fantastic option! We camped in a wilderness zone. 20:30:22 From Sheila R & Andy Z to Everyone: But I’m sure that emergencies would make for exceptions — but basically you would have to exit the trail as soon as possible 20:30:38 From Kendra Bradford to Everyone: If you turn around due to dangers people are accommodating. Talk to rangers. They will help you figure it out. 20:30:51 From Nancy to Everyone: Perfect - thank you! 20:31:01 From SteveL to Everyone: This was THE best presentation of the many pajama party zooms I've seen to date. Clear and articulate, fun, thoughtful, and very informative. Your extensive experience and gift of gab shows... Thanks Kathleen! 20:31:08 From Jodie to Everyone: thanks so much 20:31:09 From Lara Linde to Everyone: Thank you so much! 20:31:11 From Tiffany to Everyone: Thank you! 20:31:11 From Ana Garcia to Everyone: Thank you!! 20:31:12 From Faith S. to Everyone: Thank you soooo much!!! 20:31:13 From Tracey Griffith to Everyone: Thanks! It was great! 20:31:15 From CHRISTINA to Everyone: thank you so much! 20:31:17 From Nancy to Everyone: This was fantastic Kathleen - thank you so much! 20:31:18 From Bill Adams to Everyone: Thank You. Awesome presentation. 20:31:20 From Amy Baron Hatch to Everyone: thank you! 20:31:20 From Cathie from Comox BC to Everyone: Thank you! That was great. 20:31:21 From Bekah Schuring to Everyone: Thank you! This was great and very informative! 20:31:21 From Charles Grant to Everyone: Thanks so much! 20:31:21 From Liz Chalmers to Everyone: Thank you! 20:31:22 From Sally to Everyone: Thank you 20:31:23 From Celina Bednar to Everyone: thank you - so awesome 20:31:24 From Shelley Horn to Everyone: Thank you 20:31:26 From Bennis to Everyone: Thank you Token! You got me super excited to tromp this trail this coming summer! 20:31:27 From Marteena (she / her) to Everyone: thank you! I'm inspired!! 20:31:27 From Lisa Drake to Everyone: Thank you! 20:31:27 From Selena to Everyone: thanks so much! 20:31:27 From Teresa Enslin to Everyone: Thank You!!!! 20:31:27 From Melissa Romeo to Everyone: thank you 20:31:27 From Darcy Webb to Everyone: Thank you! So excited to this this summer! 20:31:28 From Vanessa Phillips to Everyone: That was wonderful. Thank you! 20:31:28 From Andra Artemova to Everyone: Thank you! 20:31:29 From Randy Lee to Everyone: Yes, thank you for a fine presentation! 20:31:30 From Ron Jones to Everyone: Thank you! 20:31:31 From Jo Bedlington to Everyone: Thank you! 20:31:31 From Mearl to Everyone: thank you! 20:31:31 From Autumn’s iPhone to Everyone: Thank you!! 20:31:31 From Britta Ahlm to Everyone: Thanks so much for a great and inspiring presentation! 20:31:32 From Sara to Everyone: Thank you! 20:31:32 From Vivian to Everyone: Thanks! 20:31:35 From Rebekah Mustoe to Everyone: thank you! 20:31:35 From Sara Carroll to Everyone: Thank you for the great presentation! 20:31:35 From tomkovich to Everyone: Thank YOU 20:31:37 From Kathy Clevenger to Everyone: thank you 20:31:38 From Michael Scuderi to Everyone: Thank you. Fantastic. We hiked the WT in 1993. Has not changed much except smaller glaciers 20:31:39 From amybarnes to Everyone: Thanks 20:31:39 From Mary Greenwood to Everyone: REally appreciated this